Warren Entsch MP for Leichhardt, talks about the formation of a new Labor Government with Michael Moore.
Warren talks about the the Independents move to support Labor, the National Broadband plan, the Cairns waterfront planned cultural centre, and a commitment to indigenous people.
It looks like the orchestrated smear campaign (with Gavin King) on Val will ramp up now that Warren can blame all (his) short-comings on her. Mark my words, I can see the Cairns Post headlines already........
Someone will have to pay for his not getting the 20,000 seat Entsch Park. Oh of course...he will rant and rave about the Cultural Centre being a "monument to a political ego" then rave about how many people want a 20,000 football stadium and how he'll "fight" to get it. Christ, we've been all through this type of game playing before.
Thanks for posting the interview. Entsch remains all bluster and noise. He will be even worse now he knows he can say anything without any pretense of delivering.
Warren, the Coalition's broadband plan was not forward thinking. Wireless is not very efficient when more people connect as latency and upload speeds will be much worse compared to fibre. No serious business runs their infrastructure using wireless.
NBN isn't just about downloading movies. That shows your ignorance of the potential scope of a fibre network.
It's well know that it will be coming to Cairns, Northern Beaches and Gordonvale which are poorly represented by privately run ADSL
You're correct - today. But that's as far as it goes. Moore's law will have wireless going at 1gb/sec in a year or two. The coalition plan was actually the forward-looking plan, not spending billions on infrastructure that will be bypassed in five years. We don't need "unlimited speeds" - that is what is so stupid about the numbers argument. HD Videoconferencing can be done easily now, on 2mb connections.
Moore's law, frequently misquoted about the progress of technology, is about the number of transistors on a silicon chip doubling every two years. It has NOTHING to do with wireless. And no Smithfield Sam - do your research and you'll find that 1Gb/s wireless is predominantly a HOME networking standard 802.16m intercompatible with WiMax, which would require base stations for this sort of performance on every street corner. Whilst that's feasible in a city CBD, it'll cost far more than fibre in the suburbs, and bombard the population with high frequency radiation.
Anyway, this isn't an argument about the technology, but on who owns and builds the technology, and if we simply left it to commercial interests, the regions (i.e. Cairns) will be left behind because it won't be "commercially viable" to screw the few remaining businesses and people up here to pay for it. THAT's why it has to be built as part of the "infrastructure" such as the roads were. As the failings of Telstra have proved, you can't leave something so important to the future of the nation in the hands of private investors. Go to any other country in the developed world and see what real internet is, and you'll realise just how far Australia has still got to catch up in the knowledge economy - its not all about downloading movies!
Hands up all those who think that Cairns is classified a "country" Australia, and that qualifies us for the "priority rollout" of the NBN "negotiated" by Messr Windsor & Okeshott?
Hands up all those who believe an optical fibre NBN will be delivered to EVERY household in Australia in our lifetime?
Take a drive from Cairns to Cooktown, Chillagoe, Undarra, Karumba, et al, and work out how many thousand kilometres of fibre are going to have to be deployed to EVERY dwelling way out there.
Then....when/if the fibre reaches the dwellings; it will go back to the local telephone exchange, where the local Broadband infrastructure will communicate with the major centres via microwave, just as the land line and cellular network does now.
Let’s face it; they ain't going to lay a fibre from Cooktown, via Lakeland, via Mareeba to Cairns when a microwave (wireless) relay will perform the job (at a fraction of the cost) with no one the wiser. That is, unless someone stands to make a great deal of money for doing so.
But then again this is the outfit that gave us "Insulation", "School Halls", and "Social Housing"
The NBN is to be rolled out during the next eight years so 93 per cent of Australian households can access fast optical fibre broadband with speeds of 1 gigabit a second.
Oliver is right. Something like this will have to be delivered by government enterprise. Hopefully it will be better administered than the Housing Insulation Scheme which left it up to private enterprise operators to deliver, and which resulted in faulty workmanship and widespread fraud. I shudder to think what would happen if a national project of this scale was given to private enterprise to deliver.
Quien Sabe - does Cooktown have mains electricity yet? Hmm, I believe you can easily string the fibre optic very happily along the same poles as the power line. Then you DON'T have to rely on the limited bandwidth of the microwave signal. And then with fibre optic to the exchange in Cooktown, all of Cooktown could be served with a) fibre to the home b) Superfast ADSL c) 4G wireless or d) Any or all of the above.
Quentin Sabe you are quite correct in the context that further change should be expected in the NBN financing and institutional structure following the deal with Telstra to access its ducts.
Expect a split between the urban / regional centres and 'the bush' because the former may attract private financing whereas the latter make the entire entity unviable as an off balance sheet commercial operation as currently structured.
Quien Sabe, I applaud the idea that we will have an NBN network, but please be advised that there is already fibre to the exchange in Cooktown. It always pays to find stuff out yourself than relying on the Medya. Besides, I watched them digging the trench to Cooktown. Admittedly it was by Tel$tra, and it doesn't go to the home but at least it is there.
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I haven't got any sound, so can't hear a thing.
Unfortunately I did have sound.
It looks like the orchestrated smear campaign (with Gavin King) on Val will ramp up now that Warren can blame all (his) short-comings on her. Mark my words, I can see the Cairns Post headlines already........
Someone will have to pay for his not getting the 20,000 seat Entsch Park. Oh of course...he will rant and rave about the Cultural Centre being a "monument to a political ego" then rave about how many people want a 20,000 football stadium and how he'll "fight" to get it. Christ, we've been all through this type of game playing before.
Thanks for posting the interview. Entsch remains all bluster and noise. He will be even worse now he knows he can say anything without any pretense of delivering.
Warren, the Coalition's broadband plan was not forward thinking. Wireless is not very efficient when more people connect as latency and upload speeds will be much worse compared to fibre. No serious business runs their infrastructure using wireless.
NBN isn't just about downloading movies. That shows your ignorance of the potential scope of a fibre network.
It's well know that it will be coming to Cairns, Northern Beaches and Gordonvale which are poorly represented by privately run ADSL
stinhambo,
You're correct - today. But that's as far as it goes. Moore's law will have wireless going at 1gb/sec in a year or two. The coalition plan was actually the forward-looking plan, not spending billions on infrastructure that will be bypassed in five years. We don't need "unlimited speeds" - that is what is so stupid about the numbers argument. HD Videoconferencing can be done easily now, on 2mb connections.
What's this "Moore's law" you refer to Smithfield Left-field Sam????
Moore's law, frequently misquoted about the progress of technology, is about the number of transistors on a silicon chip doubling every two years. It has NOTHING to do with wireless. And no Smithfield Sam - do your research and you'll find that 1Gb/s wireless is predominantly a HOME networking standard 802.16m intercompatible with WiMax, which would require base stations for this sort of performance on every street corner. Whilst that's feasible in a city CBD, it'll cost far more than fibre in the suburbs, and bombard the population with high frequency radiation.
Anyway, this isn't an argument about the technology, but on who owns and builds the technology, and if we simply left it to commercial interests, the regions (i.e. Cairns) will be left behind because it won't be "commercially viable" to screw the few remaining businesses and people up here to pay for it. THAT's why it has to be built as part of the "infrastructure" such as the roads were. As the failings of Telstra have proved, you can't leave something so important to the future of the nation in the hands of private investors. Go to any other country in the developed world and see what real internet is, and you'll realise just how far Australia has still got to catch up in the knowledge economy - its not all about downloading movies!
Here tis!!!
MOORE's LAW
Hands up all those who think that Cairns is classified a "country" Australia, and that qualifies us for the "priority rollout" of the NBN "negotiated" by Messr Windsor & Okeshott?
Hands up all those who believe an optical fibre NBN will be delivered to EVERY household in Australia in our lifetime?
Take a drive from Cairns to Cooktown, Chillagoe, Undarra, Karumba, et al, and work out how many thousand kilometres of fibre are going to have to be deployed to EVERY dwelling way out there.
Then....when/if the fibre reaches the dwellings; it will go back to the local telephone exchange, where the local Broadband infrastructure will communicate with the major centres via microwave, just as the land line and cellular network does now.
Let’s face it; they ain't going to lay a fibre from Cooktown, via Lakeland, via Mareeba to Cairns when a microwave (wireless) relay will perform the job (at a fraction of the cost) with no one the wiser. That is, unless someone stands to make a great deal of money for doing so.
But then again this is the outfit that gave us "Insulation", "School Halls", and "Social Housing"
Hands up those who believe as a society we have a social obligation to deiver broadband to Syd Walker in Speewhah?
Whoops,
O silly me...!
The NBN is to be rolled out during the next eight years so 93 per cent of Australian households can access fast optical fibre broadband with speeds of 1 gigabit a second.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/city-wont-pay-for-bush-broadband-20100908-1514i.html
No prizes for guessing that the 7% who will miss out will live in "regional/country" Australia
Oliver is right. Something like this will have to be delivered by government enterprise. Hopefully it will be better administered than the Housing Insulation Scheme which left it up to private enterprise operators to deliver, and which resulted in faulty workmanship and widespread fraud.
I shudder to think what would happen if a national project of this scale was given to private enterprise to deliver.
Quien Sabe - does Cooktown have mains electricity yet? Hmm, I believe you can easily string the fibre optic very happily along the same poles as the power line. Then you DON'T have to rely on the limited bandwidth of the microwave signal. And then with fibre optic to the exchange in Cooktown, all of Cooktown could be served with a) fibre to the home b) Superfast ADSL c) 4G wireless or d) Any or all of the above.
Quentin Sabe you are quite correct in the context that further change should be expected in the NBN financing and institutional structure following the deal with Telstra to access its ducts.
Expect a split between the urban / regional centres and 'the bush' because the former may attract private financing whereas the latter make the entire entity unviable as an off balance sheet commercial operation as currently structured.
Quien Sabe, I applaud the idea that we will have an NBN network, but please be advised that there is already fibre to the exchange in Cooktown. It always pays to find stuff out yourself than relying on the Medya. Besides, I watched them digging the trench to Cooktown. Admittedly it was by Tel$tra, and it doesn't go to the home but at least it is there.
http://www.aipm.com.au/html/2008-PMAA-QLD-17.cfm
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