tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post7853581997883482817..comments2024-01-20T10:32:53.309+10:00Comments on CairnsBlog.net: Robert Pyne leaves Cairns 1stMichael P Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02890121680113642715noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-3325978342805462332007-11-04T14:09:00.000+10:002007-11-04T14:09:00.000+10:00KarenYou must have laughed your socks off !!Thats ...Karen<BR/><BR/>You must have laughed your socks off !!<BR/>Thats made my day. <BR/>Fancy KB getting a telemarketing company to find out how unpopular he is....can you imagine the dummy spit when he does find out.....<BR/><BR/>Go now KB, resign gracefully, and go to China. <BR/>Im sure the Chinese need someone of your calibre and ability to steer them in their Communist ways !!<BR/>Bully boy tactics and hissy fits will work there, whereas they DONT work here anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-39235008327473760702007-11-03T18:42:00.000+10:002007-11-03T18:42:00.000+10:00OMG..this morning some poor woman rang me doing a ...OMG..this morning some poor woman rang me doing a survey on what I thought about the current Mayor and who I think should run. I don't think she was local because I had to spell Pyne for her. I hope her writters cramp gets better soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-51406215369713379682007-11-03T18:07:00.000+10:002007-11-03T18:07:00.000+10:00Val is not even close to ever being mayor of Cairn...Val is not even close to ever being mayor of Cairns due to her disgusting and disgraceful treatment of Rob Pyne.<BR/><BR/>Yes she should bow out gracefully, and apologise to Rob!<BR/><BR/>ROB PYNE FOR MAYOR<BR/>ROB PYNE FOR MAYOR<BR/>ROB PYNE FOR MAYOR<BR/>ROB PYNE FOR MAYOR<BR/>ROB PYNE FOR MAYORAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-73211684606328021012007-11-03T13:56:00.000+10:002007-11-03T13:56:00.000+10:00Paul, I applaud your faith in yourCairns Ist te...Paul,<BR/> I applaud your faith in your<BR/>Cairns Ist team getting up at the next council election.<BR/> However you should be aware that the unfortunate treatment by Val Schier against Rob Pyne,should prove the end of the road for Val.<BR/> This all highlights the fact that there should be no room for<BR/>factions or teams in local <BR/>government.Council should consist <BR/>of independants under the leadership of an experienced Mayor<BR/>just look at what happened to the current Unity Team.The many people I have spoken to are of the same opinion.<BR/> Your best method of replacing <BR/>K.Byrne and his cronies,would be to entice Mike Berwick to change his mind and stand for Mayor,add some quality independants and cut out the team aspect.Val would have to be prepared to retire from the quest gracefully,Mike would also bring experience and compassion to the job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-23767315857880999332007-11-03T12:37:00.000+10:002007-11-03T12:37:00.000+10:00Seeing as how byrne is president of the local libe...Seeing as how byrne is president of the local liberals and ford is on the commitee, the only way of keeping politics out of local gov is to get rid of them and their supporters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-1820221813442014852007-11-02T18:10:00.000+10:002007-11-02T18:10:00.000+10:00Reading all these posts and the peabody stuff, mak...Reading all these posts and the peabody stuff, makes me immediately think that ever1 here, including me old mate, Rob, needs to...in the imitable words of KB..."take a cold shower"...(water conservation aside)... there's obviously been a feeding frenzy @ Rob's very public decision to leave Cairns 1st... and this has helped his profile, no end...however, it loses sight of the main game... remember?... yes, that's right... it's to get rid of KB & his disunity mob and to elect a bunch of progressives(not party political hax, as some of u assume)who want ecologically sustainable development, who want Cairns unique lifestyle reflected in the design of its buildings, who want water conservation in the form of increased recycling and rainwater usage, who want an integrated transport system utilising better bikeways, pathways, park'n ride facilities and eventually a light rail from Gordonvale to Redlynch... we want to be answerable to the people... we will provide open accountable, transparent governance... we need your help to get us there!<BR/>Rob has always been fiercely independent. I forgive him for his outbursts. We must refocus on the end game... the rest is pure speculation and entertainment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-69163949943243704122007-11-01T18:01:00.000+10:002007-11-01T18:01:00.000+10:00I agree with both Rob's comment about leaving Part...I agree with both Rob's comment about leaving Party politics out of local govt. Also hear hear Northern Beaches Warrior.<BR/>Recently NZ had its Council elections and in Auckland 4 long term Mayors were ousted. They along with some of their "team" were supporting something that the residents did not. The electorate spoke and those Mayors and their supporting Councillors were dumped. <BR/>Nothing to do with what side of the fence you sat on. All to do with delivering what the Ratepayers and Residents want.<BR/>The one long term Mayor who retained his post leads the way in Environmental adherence. His council is popular and progressive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-25833288083648391042007-11-01T12:04:00.000+10:002007-11-01T12:04:00.000+10:00ROB FOR MAYOR !!ROB FOR MAYOR !!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-58050733266817605612007-11-01T07:49:00.000+10:002007-11-01T07:49:00.000+10:00Rob sounds like a breath of fresh air in this stal...Rob sounds like a breath of fresh air in this stale Cairns local politics arena.<BR/><BR/>I think he should run for Mayor too!<BR/>We need someone who is a people person and can have open communications with constituents without the need for arrogance, intimidation, name-calling, sending rude and derogatory emails, someone who puts residents first, someone who has respect for their fellow councillors and values their opinions, someone who has a vision for this City that does not include concrete high – rises on every corner, someone who is going to enforce and improve the CairnsPlan so that residential amenity is preserved for everyone and that our natural environment is not degraded, someone whose friends are not developers and someone who is honest, and is willing to work with a group of independent like-minded people to care for this city for the next 4 years.<BR/>Is that you Rob?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-10987742673051530542007-10-31T20:05:00.000+10:002007-10-31T20:05:00.000+10:00Sorry Rob, I meant the amount of people responding...Sorry Rob, I meant the amount of people responding and posting comments about YOUR story, being a Cairnsblog record response. Not that you personally had posted the most comments.<BR/>If the blog response is any indication of the support you have.. then I'm with Mandy Moo.. Rob for MayorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-64137064144934860242007-10-31T18:17:00.000+10:002007-10-31T18:17:00.000+10:00Should we all get behind a "Rob Pyne for Mayor" ca...Should we all get behind a "Rob Pyne for Mayor" campaign?<BR/>I certainly would.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-16472207174287483422007-10-31T17:50:00.000+10:002007-10-31T17:50:00.000+10:00I meant everything I said - but I wish I had said ...I meant everything I said - but I wish I had said none of it! Perhaps I am not CALCULATED enough for this caper. <BR/><BR/>I miss the old Mulgrave Shire, where Labor folks like dad ran on the same ticket as conservatives, such as Ken Alley and Stan Marsh - for the best interests of the community. When they walked into a council meeting, they left their Party Politics outside the door. There were no thought police though, and there sure was some 'right wing rhetoric' from Stan Marsh, Brasch and others, but a hell of a lot of community infustructure was built, and that, after all, is what local government should be all about about!<BR/><BR/>Rob Pyne.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-68283171739516101842007-10-31T15:46:00.000+10:002007-10-31T15:46:00.000+10:00Hey I think Rob now holds the record for most comm...Hey I think Rob now holds the record for most comments posted on CairnsBlog. Good onya Rob I think you have better ideas on what the southside of Cairns needs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-34517748120474127092007-10-31T08:21:00.000+10:002007-10-31T08:21:00.000+10:00To Rob Pyne,I understand you have had a disagreeme...To Rob Pyne,<BR/><BR/>I understand you have had a disagreement with Val Schier. Fair enough. But are you now going to bag her and the Cairns 1st team with snide remarks leading into the election? I'm sure your values haven't changed, and they always were very similar to what Vals ideas anyway. I ask you to get over your current huff and continue in your quest to get rid of Byrne. You have a good name in this town, people respect you. Do you actually want KB re-elected for another 4 years, simply because of a disagreement with Cairns 1st?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-11326110412774204432007-10-30T22:17:00.000+10:002007-10-30T22:17:00.000+10:00It would be a great idea for all interested people...It would be a great idea for all interested people,to ring or e-mail<BR/>Mike Berwick asking him to reconsider his decision not to run for the Mayoral position,in the new Cairns Council.He would make an<BR/>excellent Mayor,even if as suggested he took on the position for a short term.If Mike does not stand their is no one on the present scene capable of handling the job,this would mean four more years of K.Byrne and his cronies.<BR/>Can you imagine the state of Cairns<BR/>in four years time if this is allowed to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-4857102544164138732007-10-30T19:44:00.000+10:002007-10-30T19:44:00.000+10:00I suspect Mike has probably had enough after all t...I suspect Mike has probably had enough after all those years at the helm of Douglas, but whether or not you agree with his policies there seems little doubt that he is honest and sincere, something our whole community would benefit from. Perhaps he might consider one term while a similarly respectable alternative (Rob Pyne?) is groomed in council?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-75599000562807470172007-10-30T13:18:00.000+10:002007-10-30T13:18:00.000+10:00With R.Pyne resigning from Val Schier's team,it wi...With R.Pyne resigning from Val Schier's team,it will probably mean the end of Val's chance of toppling Byrne.Acting in tandem with O'Brien to more less oust Pyne<BR/>off the team does nothing for her <BR/>credibility.<BR/>All may not be lost as an excellent<BR/>opportunity now presents itself,<BR/>voters disappointed with the Cairns<BR/>1st team should band together and attempt to bring Mike Berwick back<BR/>for a Mayoral bid.Mike with some solid independents to work with,<BR/>would stand more than a good chance<BR/>of getting rid of Byrne,as well as bringing much needed experience and<BR/>compassion to the role of Mayor.<BR/>I do not intend to vote for Val now<BR/>after what has happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-13133333190841902202007-10-30T12:57:00.000+10:002007-10-30T12:57:00.000+10:00Margaret Pestorius Here Well I don't know about al...Margaret Pestorius Here Well I don't know about all that.<BR/><BR/>I think Val is a credible alternative because she's nice. However, I admit that is not necessarily a good criteria. Though personally respectful, I haven't found her able to to stand up for participation and inclusion - certainly a personal request to stand agains injustice coming from the Senator McLucas and the Labor party at the last election [and the beginning of an unjust war in Iraq] led me to move away from the organising team. <BR/><BR/>To me this rings loudly of most politicians her age and of her age - both Labor and Greens. The named 'better' candidates seem to be somewhat untainted because they have mainly acted as individuals and not yet had to respond to difficult conflicts around power and control: who decides what and how...<BR/><BR/>As you can see these sorts of conflicts around the unware hurtful weilding of power and control can come back to bite you on the bum [and I'm not even anonymous] years later because the conflicts and power systems are not addressed.<BR/><BR/>From what I have seen of the Labor party and the Greens in Cairns is that either you are in the IN crowd which is a small, tight, somewhat 'big brother boss' group that demands control over decision making - or you are a 'worker' bee required to do particular 'jobs' under direction. <BR/><BR/>This is old style politics and old style processes that do not have leadership development, transparency or social justice as core principles. In these systems there are no pathways to involvement beyond fundraising and handing out various types of leaflets. There is no space in the "inner sanctums" because the big boys don't trust anyone except themselves to make good decisions. Only they truly "understand" politics.[needs cynical tone] <BR/><BR/>This sort of politics bores me and seems to bore most people. [I already know how to hand out leaflets.]<BR/><BR/>Least Kevin Byrne admits the paucity of their campaigning and just gives people money to do it!<BR/><BR/>If an alternative team is to develop - it- we - would need to offer something: community perhaps, ..support, love, fun, skill development, empowerment, inclusion in decision making, understanding about weilding power and inclusion.<BR/><BR/>Really - is Jason O'Brien the man?<BR/><BR/>Is Val Shier the woman? <BR/><BR/>I would say only if she does her own thinking and doesn't stand on the shoulders of those who have come before in Cairns politics, because Cairns politics is really steeped in some bad shit. That's no one's fault but requires new thinking and courage to move beyond. And requires some people letting go of their perceived power bases.<BR/><BR/>Come on Val - give it a go.<BR/><BR/>and P.S.<BR/>Jason and his spare time makes me think about Cape York housing. I've got a few requests to make.<BR/><BR/>Maybe we should all think of a few more requests for Jason - what do you reckon?? I'd be up for a Jason O'Brien nonviolent action.<BR/>"Get back to your real work"!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-59854553183871244912007-10-30T11:55:00.000+10:002007-10-30T11:55:00.000+10:00Mark Buttrose lost all credibility with the City P...Mark Buttrose lost all credibility with the City Place entertainment space debacle. I'm still not sure there has been any adequate explanation for why what is there differed from the expectation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-40120188863768221222007-10-30T11:36:00.000+10:002007-10-30T11:36:00.000+10:00Anonymous said "It would be wonderful to have a mo...Anonymous said "It would be wonderful to have a more broadly based team of competent local people for our Council. Voter turnout and the informal vote may be interesting".<BR/><BR/>Indeed it would. It seems Cairns 1st set out with such aspirations, and some of their candidates fit the bill. I expect that such candidates will do quite well. <BR/><BR/>Richie Bates, Paul Matthews, and Mark Buttrose seem genuine community-based candidates. Rob Pyne was definitely so.<BR/><BR/>Still, with Jason O'Brien on board now there ought be no shortage of mediacre hacks to fill the spare seats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-63631559673798925712007-10-30T11:32:00.000+10:002007-10-30T11:32:00.000+10:00Val is no credible alternative, if the outburst wi...Val is no credible alternative, if the outburst with Rob Pyne is any example....she is just another KB!<BR/> <BR/>My way or the highway is both of their catchcries!<BR/><BR/>Could we please have someone strong and democratic stand up for the upcoming mayors job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-20904959095086498412007-10-30T10:27:00.000+10:002007-10-30T10:27:00.000+10:00The problem for Val Shiers team is not just that i...The problem for Val Shiers team is not just that it's a Labor front, but that it also seems to draw exclusively from the left faction of the local branches so lacks a broad base? <BR/><BR/>There are plenty of Labor opponents in Cairns who are also not admirers of Kevin Byrne and would like to see the end of him. Will they be able to support Val Shiers team with any enthusiasm and confidence? Jason O'Brien is possibly the crudest political animal around who appears to have never had any other life beyond playing politics.<BR/><BR/>It would be wonderful to have a more broadly based team of competent local people for our Council. Voter turnout and the informal vote may be interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-33055953369883398142007-10-30T09:59:00.000+10:002007-10-30T09:59:00.000+10:00lol i red on tha internet that labor is poo. so is...lol i red on tha internet that labor is poo. so is dis tru?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-3896931907523051022007-10-30T08:28:00.000+10:002007-10-30T08:28:00.000+10:00I'm sorry to say this presages what we're all in f...I'm sorry to say this presages what we're all in for in the very near future - domination of Australian government at all levels by Labor apparatchiks. It's going to be hell.<BR/><BR/>What's wrong with you people?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-1571597274068849152007-10-30T08:22:00.000+10:002007-10-30T08:22:00.000+10:00>J. Sylvester wrote:> Mike Moore and Rob Pyne, Wha...>J. Sylvester wrote:<BR/><BR/>> Mike Moore and Rob Pyne, What's wrong with you blokes? You say you want to get rid of Kevin Byrne and then you go on to attack Val Schier who is a very credible alternative.<BR/><BR/>> You should be ashamed of yourselves. Or is this just about your own egos and big noting yourselves.<BR/><BR/>I'm guessing here, because I don't know Michael personally, but perhaps he holds quaint and archaic views about the value of free, rational and non-partisan debate?<BR/><BR/>Incidentally, which attacks on Val Schier by Michael Moore and Robert Pyne are you referring to? <BR/><BR/>I must have missed them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com