tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post2534961636286781983..comments2024-01-20T10:32:53.309+10:00Comments on CairnsBlog.net: The futile and costly Afghan warMichael P Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02890121680113642715noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-89430999849206126592009-07-23T22:19:39.046+10:002009-07-23T22:19:39.046+10:00Syd, thanks for your cross-posting and further inf...Syd, thanks for your cross-posting and further info on your Blog <br /><a href="http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/07/22/fighting-the-war-on-war-a-regional-approach/" rel="nofollow">Fighting the war on war</a>.<br /><br />MikeCairnsBloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00462006385979873757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-59169132619974894562009-07-22T19:37:44.416+10:002009-07-22T19:37:44.416+10:00Its Shoalwater Bay! And I also welcome Werner'...Its Shoalwater Bay! And I also welcome Werner's analysis and opinion. It is widespread. We found that some reservists inside the exercises had similar opinions. [Of course with 24000 troops - you'd find a variety of positions]<br /><br />Now we need to think about how people can move from opinion to action. Our 'democratic representatives' don't care about opinions. Everyone can have one. Its embodied action that counts. For a start embodied action like those we have taken in Shoalwater, help us 'shed cloaks of fear' as Dan Berrigan said. Our MP's and their spokes people depend on us keeping these cloaks on, weighing us down with heat and sweat, so that we stay at home watching TV and adding to the layers of opinion...... I encourge you to Rise Up.<br />Thanks Werner.Margaret Pestoriusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-87229127415334417702009-07-22T17:54:17.052+10:002009-07-22T17:54:17.052+10:00I don't think anybody likes what Israel is doi...I don't think anybody likes what Israel is doing in Gaza and what the Palestinians are doing to the Israelis and each other.The words "little state' keep re-appearing in this debate . Would it be ok if israel was a "big state", like China (think Tibet and Urumqi) or Russia ( think Chechnia) And what exactly is the connection between Israel and Afghanistan ?Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14217897938804789667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-45655287089975241552009-07-22T16:50:31.591+10:002009-07-22T16:50:31.591+10:00Syd's on the money when he identifies Israel a...Syd's on the money when he identifies Israel as the problem. It seems the leaders of this war-mongering expansionist little state learnt much from the Nazis. However, in 2009 terms; Jewish means Aryan and Palestinian means Jew. The Gaza Strip has become their own Warsaw ghetto where they torment and kill a civilian population at will. The high moral ground claimed by Israel as an alleged victim of a united Arab enemy has been squandered by a bunch of expansionist Zionists thugs.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-35578642983037816862009-07-22T15:27:32.258+10:002009-07-22T15:27:32.258+10:00No need to go to Hervey Bay Thaddeus.
We need a ...No need to go to Hervey Bay Thaddeus. <br /><br />We need a protest outside the Cairns Post and the ABC Far North building unless and until they stop <a href="http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/07/22/fighting-the-war-on-war-a-regional-approach/" rel="nofollow">pimping for war</a>.Syd Walkerhttp://sydwalker.info/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-62603273083099156492009-07-22T15:13:32.416+10:002009-07-22T15:13:32.416+10:00Nothing to do with being prudent, Syd. I have neve...Nothing to do with being prudent, Syd. I have never even heard about Neils Harrit and I just do not have the time or resources (that you obviously have) to delve into all this stuff to the extend that you do.<br /><br />What worries me is some of the hateful comments of the followers on your blog. While you obviously have researched the stuff you believe to be the truth, many others will blindly follow whoever tells them what they want to hear... that's always a scary proposition..Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14217897938804789667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-70734981144228698232009-07-22T13:38:56.891+10:002009-07-22T13:38:56.891+10:00You are absolutely right Nick.
Of course, it'...You are absolutely right Nick.<br /><br />Of course, it's rather hard to make a similar claim against <a href="http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/05/26/2001-hate-crime-of-the-century/" rel="nofollow">Dr Neils Harrit</a> and I notice you very prudently don't try.<br /><br />But as you correctly observe, I go whether others simply dare not. <br /><br />Today I took the audacious step of <a href="http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/07/22/mark-regev-australian-deep-cover-agent/" rel="nofollow">outing Mark Regev as an deep-cover Australian Agent</a>.Syd Walkerhttp://sydwalker.info/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-90849851523846926762009-07-22T13:01:31.309+10:002009-07-22T13:01:31.309+10:00Wonder if Werner has joined Bryan's group in H...Wonder if Werner has joined Bryan's group in Hervey Bay?? For a while there I was thinking young Mike might have gotten himself arrested along with Bryan and the others.....Thaddeusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-3266730541416494082009-07-22T12:28:26.486+10:002009-07-22T12:28:26.486+10:00Syd,
I agree that we should not be in Afghanistan...Syd,<br /><br />I agree that we should not be in Afghanistan. I also agree that there was no excuse for the initial attack on Afghanistan (or Iraq for that matter). If the hijackers were Saudis,as claimed, then maybe the USA should have attacked Saudi Arabia.<br /><br /> I also think that there will always be foreign intervention in Afghanistan unless the various tribes and warlords learn to live together in peace and rule their own country.<br /><br />As for the rest of your (conspiracy) theories..I have checked out your blog a few times and some of the stuff on there posted by yourself and your faithful followers is so "out there' that I find it hard to take you serious any more.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14217897938804789667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-44030091046574963082009-07-22T10:56:14.478+10:002009-07-22T10:56:14.478+10:00Excellent to see the anti-war position articulated...Excellent to see the anti-war position articulated here Walter. Well done.<br /><br />Yesterday morning I was listening to ABC radio. ANU 'political scientist' <a href="http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/author.asp?id=2768" rel="nofollow">Professor John Warhurst</a> came on with his weekly half hour slot. <br /><br />I was so incensed by the combination of softball questions from presenter Fiona Sewell and regurgitated, conformist war-mongering spin from Warhurst that I rang the station to complain.<br /><br />I asked for:<br /><br />(1) More balance in the 'experts' they select to discuss such issue - and in particular more adequate representation for the 50%+ of Australians who, <a href="http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/07/19/outing-the-australian-greens-over-afghanistan/" rel="nofollow">according to successive recent opinion polls</a>, oppose Australian troops being in Afghanistan (in spite of incessant war-promoting hype from the Australian mass media)<br /><br />(2) More opportunity for feedback, comment and criticism from the community. If Warhurst is to foist his views on FNQ for half an hour per week, why can't we the public at least engage in dialogue with him about his views, which currently go unchallenged in Fiona's sycophantic, crooning interviews?<br /><br />My complaint got a fair hearing from the Station Manager. It remains to be seen if anything will change. Perhaps if more people call along similar lines it might?<br /><br />The most outrageous Afghanistan-related lie - perpetrated by the western mass media including 'Your' ABC - is the lie that there was any need or rational basis for launching the initial invasion of Afghanistan in 2001. Only people in a deliberate state of denial still believe that. <a href="http://sydwalker.info/blog/2009/05/26/2001-hate-crime-of-the-century/" rel="nofollow">Nanothermitic high explosives</a> were not implanted in three NYC skyscrapers by 'Islamic fundamentalists' based in Afghanistan. This is cutting edge high technology. Likewise, the cover-up of such a massive crime was clearly not orchestrated from the Hindu Kush.<br /><br />The entire 'War on Terror' is a bogus sham. It was intended from the outset, by the Ziocons who plotted it, to suck the western world into endless conflict with the Islamic world.<br /><br />Global prospects for peace and prosperity are being sacrificed for a shitty little Apartheid State (the perpetual war State of Israel). The Military Industrial Complex does well out of the racket too. For the rest of us, it's a disaster...<br /><br />That message, needless to say, is vigorously excluded from the mainstream media. If regular Aussies ever figured out what 9-11 was really about, 50&+ opposition to the war would rise to 95%+ - leaving only a rump of hard-core Zionists and their many stooges in the media and Parliament to defend the indefensible.<br /><br />Many may disagree with the views I express above - but even if you do, don't you think it would be better if they were tested openly in public debate - so the strengths and weaknesses of such a view can be properly explored?<br /><br />The ABC does not exist to manage its listerners opinions. It should adequately reflect the diversity of views in the Australian community and provide opportunities for debate between opposing views.<br /><br />As I said to the Station Manager, I've gone from a strong supporter of the ABC 10 years ago to someone who would prefer the organization be abolished if't is to continue to promote pro-war propaganda and brush aside legitimate concerns and dissenting opinions about crucially important issues<br /><br />Why should taxpayers pay for a sophisticated exercise in war-promoting mass deception?Syd Walkerhttp://sydwalker.info/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-14477013971093481262009-07-22T09:15:37.987+10:002009-07-22T09:15:37.987+10:00Oh well said. Yes, the Pashtuns are the key and P...Oh well said. Yes, the Pashtuns are the key and Pakistan needs them. It needs pointing out that Pashtuns are represented within the ranks of the Pakistani military. It is not beyond the realm of possibilities that pressure exerted on this politically volatile group, could see a wildcat coup, a nuclear weapon stolen and fired off somewhere. I would recommend people read Pervez Mushararraf's autobiography, "In the Line of Fire."Alison Allowaynoreply@blogger.com