tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post2009604413196548924..comments2024-01-20T10:32:53.309+10:00Comments on CairnsBlog.net: Wettenhall resigns ETU union membership over privatisationMichael P Moorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02890121680113642715noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-65880797534927188752010-03-04T19:32:40.230+10:002010-03-04T19:32:40.230+10:00EXTREMELY reliable source told me wettennoballs ca...EXTREMELY reliable source told me wettennoballs called protesting unionist in mareeba the "lnp cheersquad" that were there protesting our four gutless two faced coniving lying members on their lying to the electorate , before the election on privitization.<br />Who wants to bet the protesters don,t hand out for these liars at the next election ?exlabor voternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-41721992013409064442010-01-26T19:58:32.871+10:002010-01-26T19:58:32.871+10:00Steve Brech - what a joke you are ! How many peopl...Steve Brech - what a joke you are ! How many people do you actually have in the FNQ Green Party that follow your ridiculous,ego driven local policies ?<br />The Green Party has you as the sole contact for the State electorates of Barron River, Cairns, Charters Towers, Mulgrave, Tablelands, Cook, Mt Isa etc. <br /><br />The one man army, or is it just that nobody else that has the environment at heart wants to listen to your shit anymore ?The Real Greensnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-40026768138577150352010-01-24T07:53:55.856+10:002010-01-24T07:53:55.856+10:00When I was a site convenor for the amwu , we had g...When I was a site convenor for the amwu , we had grubs like noballs that were in the union and yet did nothing but scab and cause trouble and not pay dues , we also had grubs that said "when we get into trouble we will join up" .<br /> I told them under the workplace laws it is an offence to force people to join the union ,which we never ever did.<br /> But it is not an offence to stop them from joining , so we told head office if any of these grubs from our site joined up directly from here ,instead of joining without us knowing ,we all would resign from the amwu , all seven stewards . It had an immediate effect on their grubby scabbing attitude.<br />If noballs tried to join any union he should be told sorry we are full !laborsuck bigtime.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-4159336409186634602010-01-23T22:37:56.881+10:002010-01-23T22:37:56.881+10:00So Steve is going to join another union. Best of l...So Steve is going to join another union. Best of luck to him I say. <br /><br />Now if I were a union boss I would look at his track record with the ETU. It's what we workers call checking out his CV. Ad in this regard it appears that Steve's CV is a tad light on.<br /><br />Has he paid his dues promptly? NO<br /><br />Has be represented the views of his Union? NO<br /><br />Has he made promises to fellow union members and then kept them? NO<br /><br />In fact I can only see two big "yesses".<br /><br />Has he benefitted from the hard work and financial support of his fellow union members oly to treat them like shite as soon as the election is won? YES<br /><br />Is he likely to repeat this in 2012? YES<br /><br />It should not take much nouse for any union boss vetting potenial membership applications to realise that accepting an application from Steve is high risk. I think the saying is "takes everything, but gives nothing in return."Noj Nedlawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-45377793753384766872010-01-23T16:05:20.402+10:002010-01-23T16:05:20.402+10:00..for those of you wondering about the latest and .....for those of you wondering about the latest and greatest tool Wendy has taken up in her long running battle for true democracy,( so she can claim victory over evil councils, property developers and State politicians). I'll give you a few quotes from the web-site "United People: Virtual World Government."<br /><br /> At this site Ricardo Johansson claims that the first community to become part of the "Virtual World Government" has been set up in Byron Bay using the Term, "Will of the People Project"<br /><br />http://www.upworldgov.org/oms/oms.php?loc=gov<br /><br /><br />He says, "The People have been conditioned to believe that they have authority over their goverments by participating in periodic elections. <br /><br />In reality a democracy and a republic are both corporate forms of government where the power rests in the apex of a corporate pyramid - the governmental institutions and the elites who control them."<br /><br /> <br />He goies on, "The People are the real masters and the elected government officials are their servants." and contibues, "Article 21 (3) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights starts with:<br /><br />'The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government;...' but the words that follow actually retract the People's authority by giving it away to their representatives:<br /><br />'... this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.'<br /><br />A government that is not controlled at all times by the People cannot be called a government of, by, to, for, and from the People."<br /><br />So if Wendy, is indeed "following" this group it looks like the "Viscount" wil have his way.<br /><br />It seems that Wendy is over 'old democracy' where people are conditioned to vote for politicians (Like that evil mob of councilors in Byron Bay who are Members of The Greens") and looking into "pure democracy".<br /><br />Wendy may be looking at 'Will of the People Project" as a way to become elected without having to go through the stupid and boring process of actually getting any votes....good luck Wendy, I hope you win.Steve Brechnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-22823631794157953142010-01-23T13:29:18.361+10:002010-01-23T13:29:18.361+10:00Wendy, I do honestly think that it is time to hang...Wendy, I do honestly think that it is time to hang up your political boots and give a fresh face a chance to represent the seat of Barron River or Cairns in George St Brisbane.<br />Unfortunately, you have had 3 goes at different elections and different seats and on each ocassions you have failed to cut the mustard!<br />For some reason or another you do not seem to have the respect of the community, notwithstanding your immediate familiy's longterm involvement in local civic affairs.<br />Please do not block the community's conduits with another attempt to grab the headlines through, 'Will of the People Project.'Viscount Julius Monseratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-83766647849815703582010-01-23T12:06:51.482+10:002010-01-23T12:06:51.482+10:00Bryan,
Thanks for your comments. They are all accu...Bryan,<br />Thanks for your comments. They are all accurate as far as I can tell. And thanks Mike for alerting me to them.<br /> <br />Just thought you may be interested (if you are not already aware of it) to follow, as I am, a movement called <a href="http://www.willofthepeopleproject.net/oms/oms.php?&loc=gov1bb" rel="nofollow">Will of the People Project</a>(WPP). It does (of course) emanate from Byron Bay, and started out as an attempt for local people there to have more say in local government. <br /> <br />I became aware of this movement during the Peter Spencer campaign, which was featured a lot on the Agmates site.<br /> <br />I am heartened by hearing many comments and seeing actions such as this throughout the community lately in regard to concern for democracy and representation in government.Wendy Richardsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-72532205218547996522010-01-22T22:18:43.374+10:002010-01-22T22:18:43.374+10:00Why Steven, how terribly ethnographic of you. &qu...Why Steven, how terribly ethnographic of you. "Big Man" is from New Guinea. "Pow-wow" is from north America. Do you have some quaint terminology from the Australian indigenous? Or are you too aware and respectful for that?Bryan Lawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-56748051788279015212010-01-22T18:42:40.917+10:002010-01-22T18:42:40.917+10:00Hey Bryan we got this shit guberman because of you...Hey Bryan we got this shit guberman because of your fat gut. All that meat you and wendy gut into leaves JAH and Diablo no other option. Cut to fruit and watch the change. <br /><br />Y'all barking up the wrong butchery/fish hook. Meat is murder and voodoo never sleeps so little hope for now for any difference. None of the above is vegan yet fruit/veges rule. Why not just slash up guys as you are driving the wrong way up a one way street?<br /><br />Jah on my right and left hand so whom should I fear?Warren Entschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00462482057601124018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-76131915480285493852010-01-22T16:55:41.956+10:002010-01-22T16:55:41.956+10:00Bryan,
You orgainise a date and time with the big...Bryan,<br /><br />You orgainise a date and time with the big man and I'll be there.. I just really can't be bothered at the moment organising trivial little pow-wows to satisfy your ego.<br /><br />StevenSteven Nowakowskihttp://www.stevennowakowski.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-17078690663011852072010-01-22T16:19:00.597+10:002010-01-22T16:19:00.597+10:00Good one Sam, you just made my day ! Can electrici...Good one Sam, you just made my day ! Can electricians join the Queensland Law Society ?Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14217897938804789667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-12204678916196352422010-01-22T14:15:19.842+10:002010-01-22T14:15:19.842+10:00Grateful Mac asks: "And what is a lawyer doi...Grateful Mac asks: "And what is a lawyer doing in a blue collar union anyway ?" <br /><br />It's called having a fallback career, mate. Those that dealt with him as a solicitor uniformly report his legal work is shit. While his sparky work may be shit too, at least he'll have someone watching and correcting him. And, he could get electrocuted.<br /><br />All good.Smithfield Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-13228818003814992882010-01-22T12:54:16.260+10:002010-01-22T12:54:16.260+10:00steve brech I am no wendy lover , but if she promo...steve brech I am no wendy lover , but if she promoted a mono rail to the daintree instead of a zillion pollution making cars ,great idea , if she promoted a new kurnada range road instead of the one death trap you have now , great idea , instead of trying to save your own arse after doing a deal with noballs at the last election ,you should listen to what victorians think of the stinking greens after they lost everything includin family during last years bushfires tosser !greenhaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-54093587596299446272010-01-22T12:19:46.919+10:002010-01-22T12:19:46.919+10:00In a democracy, people get the government they des...In a democracy, people get the government they deserve. I often wonder what we’ve done to deserve our present situation.<br /><br />Wendy is right about the indigenous issues in Barron River (and generally in Queensland). Half a dozen Murris and Bama told me during the election that they were over Labor lies, and didn’t trust Wettenhall or O’Brien in particular. Wendy and her campaign manager John were doing a far better job on those issues.<br /><br />But if she’s honest Wendy will also admit that the LNP “bosses” in Brisbane didn’t really back her up on issues like the Yacht Club, or pay enough attention to urban issues around Cairns.<br /><br />I’m also glad to see that Steve Brech intends to have an honest discussion within the Greens about preferences/deals with TWS and Labor. Next time.<br /><br />But if he’s honest Steve will acknowledge that the Greens “bosses” in Brisbane couldn’t give a toss about democracy or local opinion in Cairns.<br /><br />I’ll avoid profanity and not comment about the dishonest, stupid, arrogant and offensive current state of the Labor Party.<br /><br />If we want change then we at the grass-roots of society need to get better at inclusion, honesty and democracy in our own lives, and in the way we organise as a community. There are no short-cuts to this.<br /><br />For the record I handed out for Steve Brech at Trinity Bay High School. I also tried my best to assist in the defeat of Desley Boyle and Steve Wettenhall, and I wish Stuey Traill and the Greens had been a bit more of a wake-up to the Labor “bosses” in Brisbane before giving them three more years in which to fuck us over.<br /><br />p.s. I notice that Steven Nowakowski and Di Horsburgh above ran far away at the mention of a public debate.Bryan Lawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-60009403936200939682010-01-22T11:28:14.730+10:002010-01-22T11:28:14.730+10:00...yes Wendy, I agree, one of the main reasons I l......yes Wendy, I agree, one of the main reasons I lobbied for not preferencing you in Barron was that you are pro a new Kuranda Range Road, in favour of the continued development over at False Cape and you and the rest of the Liberal and National Party's (Is Warren a Liberal or a National?)want to build a mono-rail from the daintree to Cape Trib. <br /><br />You are a party of "Develop and degrade at any price". You are more interested in making money than the welfare of your workers. See Dougie's death over at False Cape as a prime example when the Greens warned there would be deaths on-site.<br /><br />If I am pre-selected again as the candidate for Cairns by the FNQ Greens I will be pushing for a local & State-wide, "Vote Green 1" with no allocation of preferences to anyone else.<br /><br />I believe people can make up their own minds about what each party stands for, but as you say an open and public admission of what you want to do when elected would be great.Steve Brechnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-84124182693233410192010-01-22T11:15:32.078+10:002010-01-22T11:15:32.078+10:00Dear Elephant,
Active member and someone with acce...Dear Elephant,<br />Active member and someone with access to labor office I hate to tell you that those lines were not run in campaign against me as they are incorrect. The Affordable Cairns debacle cost me not the employees so please put that to rest. <br /><br />As for Steve Wetenhall now paying the fees it is just getting beter and better. I also wonder if Stuey is going to have a run at the next state election. If the ETU etc are set against the current state labor policy then the obvious result will be union endorsed candidates running for seats - will they be party endorsed or not will be interesting reading.stephen welshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-29215150930242537012010-01-22T10:30:05.415+10:002010-01-22T10:30:05.415+10:00Nobody should forget the other 3 State members, O&...Nobody should forget the other 3 State members, O'Brien, Boyle and Pitt also support the Premier regarding Privatisation of the public assets.<br />They are equally to blame.<br />All of them were also assisted by Union members in their campaigns. They too refuse to repay the faith that was placed in them.<br />Unless these members start listening to the 90% of punters in their electorates that agree with us they will all lose at the next election.Stuey Traillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-76091720401110239592010-01-22T08:45:56.400+10:002010-01-22T08:45:56.400+10:00I am impressed by the number of valid and importan...I am impressed by the number of valid and important issues this whole situation has raised, especially early on in the discussion, and as the candidate who came so close to representing Barron River at the 2009 election, I would like to make the following comments.<br /><br />Firstly, I do not support the fire sale of these assets, and even more so, I cannot support the actions of people who blatantly lie like Bligh and Co have done. And she has now gagged her Ministers from speaking on the matter. The lies don’t stop there either. Remember the promise of 100,000 jobs? Nothing could be further from the truth, Queensland has worse employment rates than at the time of the election, but the promise from Bligh sure hooked in the voters.<br /><br />LNP was confident Bligh would go to an early election last year, despite her assurances ‘I will go full term’ that she made even as she prepared her 8 page 'Anna' feature for The Women’s Weekly.<br /><br />Bligh knew if the electorate realised the level of debt she had got Qld into (not due to GFC)and the desperate measures Labor would take to resolve it, it would have cost her the election. So it had to be held 6 months early, well before the mid-year budget. She and her cabinet quite obviously lied to everyone, knowing what they were planning to do.<br /><br />They would have thought ‘Get in at any price. We’ll have time to win everyone back over later.’ <br /><br />Next, in regard to preference deals, it is my understanding that getting Ronan Lee back into Parliament (you will recall he defected mid-term from Labor to the Greens) was the main focus of the preference deal between Labor and the Greens. Labor undertook to preference him in his former seat of Indooroopilly in return for getting Green preferences in the 14 most marginal seats for Labor. One of these seats was Barron River. <br /><br />Interestingly, the whole exercise did not achieve their aim; LNP's candidate, Scott Emerson won Indooroopilly.<br /><br />I have heard too, that the Greens in Gympie refused to hand out the ‘How to Vote’ leaflets they were supplied by their Brisbane office, in protest over supporting the Labor party which was also fudging around on whether or not they were going to go ahead and build one of the most environmentally challenged dams – Traveston Crossing. LNP had stated categorically they would NOT build the dam.<br /><br />Meanwhile, our local media reported the Greens in Barron River were giving their preferences to Wettenhall because he was promising the indigenous people from Mona Mona, that Anna Bligh would overturn Labor’s Cabinet decision to take most of their land from them and turn it into a National Park. <br /><br />After the election though, it seems Wettenhall has said he never promised such a thing; he only promised to INVESTIGATE overturning that decision!!<br /><br />Many local indigenous people didn’t trust him, but it seems the Greens did. Pity about that because not only had LNP given their word (in writing) to reverse the Cabinet decision, they also undertook to;<br />• Investigate how to support infrastructure development for Mona Mona residents, which they supported in principal<br />• Assist in getting land ownership and freehold title sorted out for indigenous people<br />• Investigate ways of providing redress to the elders of Mona Mona which was denied to them most unfairly on technicalities, through the Forde Inquiry.<br /><br />These measures were much more far-reaching than what Labor had offered and most importantly, would have really addressed the needs of these people who have been trying hard for so long to help themselves.<br /><br />I have since been told too that the local Greens still held against me a perceived stance on development at East Trinity. In discussions with local Greens since the election the comment from them ’So you are open to a conversation on this’, has revealed the obvious; we all need to communicate better in future and be quite clear what projects and policies we support when it comes to preferences.<br /><br />Of course, that also depends on everyone telling the truth.Wendy Richardsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-44089974751610968492010-01-21T23:52:12.063+10:002010-01-21T23:52:12.063+10:00Thank you Miss Prim (et al) for your non-response ...Thank you Miss Prim (et al) for your non-response of ignorant spleen and hate! Was there a point or any specific disagreement there? My fingers tonight are subtly fragrant and restrained thank you :)<br /><br />Congress: The quote is too trite. As we all should have learnt it's not the profit or loss but the risk adjusted assessment and externalities that should be the first consideration. More pigovian taxes such as an ETS would be the logical response to your equation as proposed by most leading economists. A consensus far greater than climate science and with equally or more confirming evidence?KitchenSluthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15947481064967081891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-72162259519607120112010-01-21T21:32:38.295+10:002010-01-21T21:32:38.295+10:00Free market economy - "socialise your losses ...Free market economy - "socialise your losses and privatise your profits."nocturnal congressnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-62600294345771119472010-01-21T20:26:53.065+10:002010-01-21T20:26:53.065+10:00Hey elephant,
While busy attempting to tie the LN...Hey elephant,<br /><br />While busy attempting to tie the LNP and/or coalition to Mr. Welsh, you've conveniently forgotten that it was the Howard coalition government that put in the Superannuation guarantee - which ensures employees of defunct companies always get their contributions paid.<br /><br />And company failures are a fact of life in a free-market, where people try to create wealth by hard work and investment. Something you lazy labor socialists know nothing about.Ed from Edge Hillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-7768193764655188862010-01-21T17:01:27.686+10:002010-01-21T17:01:27.686+10:00Wade,
What a lot of ill-informed nasty crap. If ...Wade,<br /><br />What a lot of ill-informed nasty crap. If you know nothing about the issue being discussed here, and are obviously predjudiced against unions and what they stand for, then may I suggest that you sit this one out!Vaughnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-36246093212990872332010-01-21T16:45:42.139+10:002010-01-21T16:45:42.139+10:00Is this Stephen Welsh the same Stephen Welsh who w...Is this Stephen Welsh the same Stephen Welsh who was a director and owner of the Cairns company Affordable Cairns P/L?<br /><br />It sure is. This bloke, the former Liberal candidate for Barron River, has form.<br /><br />He rips off his employees. Affordable Cairns, while Welsh was a director, failed to pay his employees their compulsory superannuation.<br /><br />Welsh is a typical LNP business spiv.<br /><br />A rip-off merchant. One of those LNP carpetbaggers who set up a company, squeeze all they can out of its employees and the public, put it in receivership and then start all over again.<br /><br />He’s just another LNP parasite living off the hard work and honesty of others - people who have put their trust in him.<br /><br />The law requires companies to pay superannuation. It’s part of employees’ lawful entitlements. It is a way for them to secure their independence and basic comforts in old age.<br /><br />Instead, compulsory superannuation has become just another obstacle for the LNP greed machine to get around - at the expense of ordinary Cairns people.<br /><br />Welsh and his cronies on the board of Affordable Cairns broke the law to line their own pockets.<br /><br />Directors have a duty to their employees - it is a duty of trust, as well as a legal and fiduciary duty. Welsh broke that trust.<br /><br />He owes his former employees thousands of dollars because their trust in him was misplaced.<br /><br />But you can bet that Welsh got every last cent he could out of this shabby little deal.<br /><br />How Welsh is still allowed to be involved in corporate management - he owns and runs a number of Cairns business - is beyond understanding.<br /><br />If the tax office and ASIC had been doing their job, he’d probably have faced serious charges by now.<br /><br />Affordable Cairns went into receivership, and so far as I know none of those ordinary Cairns people he employed have received their superannuation.<br /><br />Make no mistake about it, Welsh is responsible for this rip-off as a director of Affordable Cairns.<br /><br />He was a director. He was an owner. He should have fulfilled his duties to those employees and paid them their superannuation and other legal entitlements.<br /><br />If he had any decency left he would get on this blog right now and offer to pay all his employees’ outstanding entitlements out of his own pocket.<br /><br />Welsh and everything he stands for are rotten to the core.<br /><br />Just like the LNP.<br /><br />ASIC EXTRACT OF ENTRY<br />WELSH, STEPHEN GREGORY<br />Born: 27/11/1966 Birthplace: SOUTHPORT QLD<br />AFFORDABLE CAIRNS PTY. LTD.<br />ACN (Australian Company Number) 096 280 590<br />ABN (Australian Business Number) 34 096 280 590<br />Company Status: Deregistered<br />Previous Director<br />0E5772675<br />164−170 SPENCE STREET BUNGALOW QLD 4870<br />Appointment Date: 21/03/2001 Cease Date: 20/08/2002<br /><br />Former Shares Held<br />Class : ORD No. Held: 8000 0E2638760<br />Beneficially Held: YES Paid : FULLY (AR 1998)<br />082 975 684 JR WELSH TRAVEL PTY LTD<br />Member Address<br />164−170 SPENCE STREET BUNGALOW QLD 4870<br />Class : ORD No. Held: 40 0E6958194<br />Beneficially Held: YES Paid : FULLY (AR 2001)<br />096 280 590 AFFORDABLE CAIRNS PTY. LTD.<br />Member Address<br />164−170 SPENCE STREET BUNGALOW QLD 4870elephant memorynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-36491302890853138462010-01-21T11:33:42.827+10:002010-01-21T11:33:42.827+10:00Thanks GM,
I understand and appreciate your suppo...Thanks GM,<br /><br />I understand and appreciate your support for for small business,<br />and share your concerns over the relevant award.Richienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7878592054777492431.post-79312828061664371392010-01-21T11:19:59.073+10:002010-01-21T11:19:59.073+10:00Richie,
I support and respect what you stand for....Richie,<br /><br />I support and respect what you stand for. I have not always been an employer and know what life is like "on the other side" and have every reason to treat my workers well.<br /><br />I think some of the aspects of WorkChoices had merit, and the same goes for the new arrangements. <br /><br />They have in fact maintained some of the flexibility arrangements (like averaging of hours). Also, our current AWA is still valid and will remain so indefinitely according to advice I received recently from the Fair Pay people. <br /><br />Only provision is that conditions can't be less than the relevant award. Problem is that nobody can tell me what the relevant award is.<br /><br />On the other hand, employees should maybe be careful not to push too hard for their rights, especially when they are employed by a small business. Sending your employer broke is hardly going to enhance your employment prospects.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14217897938804789667noreply@blogger.com