Sunday, 24 July 2011

A weekend quote

  • "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests."


Leigh Dall'Osto said...

I thought that was a good one too.....shame I only heard it because it was the one and only 'tweet' from the lunatic who killed over 90 in Norway yesterday.

Terry Vance said...

Breivik was a neo-Nazi as evidenced by his journal. What happened in Norway could easily happen in Australia. Any news item that we see in Australia which deals with immigration or boat people immediately fires up a certain element of people. (Look at the recent online comments section in The Cairns Post) On talk-back radio in particular, you hear extremist views punctuated with brutal and violent argument and threatening language. Unfortunately the media are helping to sow the seeds of hatred and extremism. "Hate" is extremely profitable to the corporatised media. Notice how they jumped obscenely to the conclusion when the news of the tragedy was breaking that it was "Al Qaeda"? I watched some dumb f--wit of a journalist asking a "terrorist expert" if in the event it was a "home grown terrorist" then wouldn't they have been influenced by Al Qaeda? UNREAL. It is that type of irresponsible journalism which will eventually see violence in Australia.

Syd Walker said...

Time to ban the books of John Stuart Mill?

Nick said...

Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.

Adolf Hitler

“If you succumb to the temptation of using violence in the struggle, unborn generations will be the recipients of a long and desolate night of bitterness, and your chief legacy to the future will be an endless reign of meaningless chaos.”

Martin Luther King

It won't be long before some idiot will start spouting conspiracy theories about this horrible tragedy.

Anonymous said...

You mean like Breivik's fascination with Zionist and pro-Israel websites Nick?

Syd Walker said...

@Nick. I'm unable to find an authentic source for your Hitler quotation, although it is repeated to a quite remarkable extent on the web.

Is there one Nick? Can you provide the reference? Or is this another case of Zionist creative fiction, as in the even more famous (bogus) Hitler quote: "As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation"

Nick said...

The quote is possibly fake, and is attributed to a former Nazi Hermann Rauschning.

It is still a relevant observation., as the subject was not Hitler or Zionism, but the statement by Breivik.

I don't know if it was a Zionist "creation". You are the expert on that. What I do know is that you will use any opportunity to broadcast your Zionist conspiracy views.

Here is another quote from old Adolf, which is probably more to your liking :

Was there any form of filth or profligacy, particularly in cultural life, without at least one Jew involved in it? If you cut even cautiously into such an abscess, you found, like a maggot in a rotting body, often dazzled by the sudden light - a kike!
Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf

I can get you the original German version if you like.

Syd Walker said...

@ Nick.


Allow me to paraphrase for you Nick. "The 'Hitler' quote I (Nick) used was bogus. If anyone said it, it might have been one of Hitler's sidekicks. However, it is still highly relevant, because the topic wasn't Hitler but something else"

This is an entirely new style of argument to which I can adapt with relish, Nick. Allow me to furnish readers with my own Hitler quote:

"Little was I to know as I rose to power as supreme leader of the Third Reich that a greater man shall come after me, whose name will be Syd, who will decisively critique my erroneous notions about race, dealing a death-blow not only to Nazi ideology but to the idiotic racial fantasies of Zionists and their lackeys".

That quotation, Nick, while not strictly accurate, is "still a relevant observation" as the topic is not Adolf Hitler but your bogus quotations in CairnsBlog.

Nick said...

I am glad you are amused, Syd.

Let's put it like this :

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death".

Anonymus (neo) Nazi.

Is the quote relevant to the subject matter , namely Breivik's quote ?

I think it is.

In the context, does it really matter who said it ? Do you believe that terrorism (or armed resistance, depending on which side of the fence you are) is not a very strong political weapon ?

You jumped on it to flog your Zionist conspiracy hobby horse yet again and for no other reason.

Have you found a Zionist or some other conspiracy angle yet on recent events in Norway ?

I can give you some leads:

-Breivik was reported to be "pro-Israel".
-Norway generally is very supportive of the Palestinian people and have been active in peace negotiations between the two.
-Part of it happened on an island. tasmania is an island. There was a massacre in Tasmania. The link is obvious.

It shouldn't be hard to cook something up including links to dubious You-Tube clips and various obscure blogs.

Nick said...

I gotta give it to you Syd, you are quick off the mark.

You are already using this tragedy to spread your despicable poison,all based on pure speculation.

You really are a disgrace !

Syd Walker said...

A question for you Nick: why use bogus Hitler quotations?

It seems to have become a global obsession and as CairnsBlog is lucky enough to have an aficionado of this strange sport among its readership, perhaps you could explain its attractions to the rest of us.

I'm reminded of this little-reported prediction attributed to the Fuhrer from his time in the bunker:

"Even though I am the undisputed leader of the Master Race, future generations may yet be plagued by pesky imitators who think they know my mind better than I know it myself and insist on attributing to me silly comments that no politician in his right mind would ever utter".

Nick said...

A question for you Syd.

Why your obsession with Hitler and Zionist conspiracies ?

In this particular context, it was the content of the quote that mattered. Not whoever it was attributed to. There are many such quotes, attributed to all sort of people, which have gained a life of their own and have become part of every day language.

As for the latest effort on your blog. You have excelled yourself. It's been a long time since I have read anything so disgraceful.

Your sly insinuations trying to link the Norway tragedy to the Israelis or Zionists in general are beyond contempt. Your sanctimonious disclaimer ("I'm not accusing anyone, but I will make the suggestion anyway") is pathetic.

Your advice to the Norwegians on how to deal with the investigation is arrogant and preposterous.

I always thought you were some washed-up hard-line Trotskyist, but you are clearly out of your mind.

Have you considered re-hab ?

Syd Walker said...

Hi Nick.

You really should control that temper my friend. Personal abuse ill becomes you.

Why am I interested in (a) Zionism (b) Zionist conspiracies?

(a) Any movement that can command the grovelling obeisance of way more than half of the US Senate gets my attention. If Zulus or Icelanders ever accomplish such a feat, be sure I'll take a much keener interest in them too.

(b) There are numerous quite openly Zionist organisations around the world who work hard to achieve and retain their influence. I assume they communicate with each other from time to time. It follows that they conspire, whether for good or for ill. I'm more interested in their combined political impact than in the personal vagaries of individual Zionists. Hence my interest in 'Zionist conspiracies', as you call them.

I am not as interested in Hitler as you claim - but I have, over time, become very interested in the many outright lies told about him, which seem to multiply, not decrease, with the passage of time. I'm interested in the people who disseminate this blatant disinformation. What's their motive?

So now that I've answered your questions Nick, over to you. I did, after all, ask first. Why DO you use bogus Hitler quotes? Why not bogus Churchill quotes - or Mao quotes, or Genghis Khan? Perhaps you could let the rest of us know?

Incidentally, I hadn't linked to my latest blog article (too much self-promotion is tacky, don't you think?) But thanks anyway for the plug. Very nice of you :-)

Nick said...

"Why DO you use bogus Hitler quotes? Why not bogus Churchill quotes - or Mao quotes, or Genghis Khan? Perhaps you could let the rest of us know?"

I would happily use any "bogus" quotes from Mao, Gandhi or whoever you want if they were relevant to the subject. Nothing special about the Hitler one. I think you are suffering from "Hasbara" syndrome (also described as seeing Jews under every bed).

I'm also happy to alert people to your latest, very offensive and mendacious so-called "article".

My temper is just fine, Syd and I didn't direct any personal abuse at you whatsoever.

I was just airing the view that I believe that you have completely lost the plot and are getting more and more unhinged. There is no other explanation for your insane theories.

The paranoia must be getting to you...

Syd Walker said...

I notice the Norwegian Government has announced a public inquiry into the massacre. That's very positive, IMO.

To announce an inquiry with an independent panel so soon after the massacre stands in stark contrast to the 1978 Sydney Hilton bombing (still no inquiry), the 1995 Port Arthur massacre (still no inquiry), the 2001 9-11 atrocity (a series of grossly inadequate inquiries, established reluctantly and thoroughly lacking in credibility) and the 2005 7/7 London bombings (still no inquiry).

The devil is in the detail; we need to see the ToRs, the panel members and how this inquiry will function in practice. Even so, the Norwegians are clearly well ahead of Anglo-Saxons on due process in cases such as this - although that alone is scarcely much of an achievement.

Nick said...

I read the Norwegian papers in Norwegian on a daily basis, both mainstream and alternative,and none of them are owned by Murdoch as far as I know. I am keeping a close eye on developments and I don't rely on obscure conspiracy web sites or doctored You-Tube clips for my information.

The Norwegians are miles ahead of the Anglo-Saxons in many ways, Syd, not just on the issue of due process.

I notice that some of your regular blog contributors are now instant experts on Norway and they have already decided , without any evidence whatsoever, that this is another "false flag" operation and that the Mossad is probably behind it.

One of them even tried to make a comparison between Norway and Lybia. Well maybe there is a Lybia connection ? Norway is involved in the NATO action against Lybia, so if I wanted to spread malicious gossip I could suggest that Gaddafi was probably behind it. I am sure I could find a bunch of "experts" and journalists somewhere in the world to back me up.

As things stand I am happy to wait and see what comes out of the inquiry.I definitely won't engage in biased speculation.

Maybe you should re-name your blog : "the gossip,rumour and inuendo blog for conspiracy junkies".